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		<title>By: Arun Ranganathan</title>
		<link>http://dougturner.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/my-airmozilla-geo-talk/#comment-864</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or, mention the &quot;pre-arranged trust&quot; edge cases explicitly -- e.g., mention E911 explicitly as a potential &quot;emergency-based trust relationship.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, mention the &#8220;pre-arranged trust&#8221; edge cases explicitly &#8212; e.g., mention E911 explicitly as a potential &#8220;emergency-based trust relationship.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: dougt</title>
		<link>http://dougturner.wordpress.com/2009/03/05/my-airmozilla-geo-talk/#comment-863</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jmdesp this recommendation is for ANY user agent including browsers.  clearly Firefox will never send anything like geolocation without expressed permission.  However, we considered the use cases of non-browser UAs which may want to use this specification and want a recommendation on what to do regarding privacy.  Such non-browser use cases sometimes place the end user as not the right person to approve use of geolocation.  For example, a kiosk at a mall that uses geolocation to place its center point.  Does the user of this kiosk really need to see a geolocation confirmation dialog?  In this case, it is the operator of the kiosk that has that responsibility.

However, maybe you are right.  Maybe we should just not include anything regarding &quot;prearranged trust&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@jmdesp this recommendation is for ANY user agent including browsers.  clearly Firefox will never send anything like geolocation without expressed permission.  However, we considered the use cases of non-browser UAs which may want to use this specification and want a recommendation on what to do regarding privacy.  Such non-browser use cases sometimes place the end user as not the right person to approve use of geolocation.  For example, a kiosk at a mall that uses geolocation to place its center point.  Does the user of this kiosk really need to see a geolocation confirmation dialog?  In this case, it is the operator of the kiosk that has that responsibility.</p>
<p>However, maybe you are right.  Maybe we should just not include anything regarding &#8220;prearranged trust&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: jmdesp</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 10:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; a voip telephone may not present any user interface when using a
&gt; geolocation to perform an E911 function.

I&#039;m wary even of that. Flagging some sites, even for the best reasons, as allowed for silent geolocatisation opens a can of worms.

For 911, I&#039;d prefer a short warning bar with a count down Â« by accessing this site, you agree to transmit your current localisation. Click here within 5 seconds to cancel access. Â»

If the short delai is already too much, then I&#039;d do a short information bar instead (&quot;Warning : This site is privileged to full access to you location information !&quot;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; a voip telephone may not present any user interface when using a<br />
&gt; geolocation to perform an E911 function.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wary even of that. Flagging some sites, even for the best reasons, as allowed for silent geolocatisation opens a can of worms.</p>
<p>For 911, I&#8217;d prefer a short warning bar with a count down Â« by accessing this site, you agree to transmit your current localisation. Click here within 5 seconds to cancel access. Â»</p>
<p>If the short delai is already too much, then I&#8217;d do a short information bar instead (&#8220;Warning : This site is privileged to full access to you location information !&#8221;).</p>
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